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а)  В присланном описании зоны  ворот (или стороны поля) никак не    различаются,  т.е. робот должен  постоянно  в  процессе сбора шаров    "помнить"  где  именно  его     сторона.   Даже  при  использовании    гиродатчика  это  затруднительно,  т.е.   в   нем достаточно сильно    накапливается  ошибка,  а  участников  с  NXT/RXC    это  ставит  в    заведомо   неравное   положение.   Предлагаю  поместить   на   поле    какую-либо    информацию    для    ориентации,  например,  окрасить    зоны  ворот  в  разные  цвета,  причем  такие, чтобы он  отчестливо    отличались   и   по  интенсивности,  дабы их можно было различать и    датчиком освещенности, а не только датчиком цвета.   

б)     Конкретизуйте,     пожалуйста,   положение   "Робот   должен    передвигать шары   исключительно   своим   корпусом,  при  этом  не     имея         никаких       приспособлений           (механических,    пневматических,       вибрационных,    акустических     и     др)."    относительно   того,   что  считать, а что не считать "механическим    приспособлением".  

в)  Робот  может  собирать шары по всему полю, в том числе и в зоне    ворот соперника?   

г)  В разделе 5 сказано:    "Шар  считается  привезенным  в зону ворот только в том случае,    если  он снова не закатился на игровое поле, то есть шар расположен    либо  в  зоне  ворот (при этом черная линия считается зоной ворот),    либо за пределами поля."   

А  в  разделе  6:  "В каждом поединке выигравшим считается робот, у    которого в зоне ворот располагается наибольшее число шаров."    Надо  бы  привести формулировки в соотвествие: располагаются в зоне    ворот"  или  "привезены  в  зону  ворот", т.е. в оказались зоне или    прошли через неё и оказались за пределами поля?



Добрый день, спасибо за вопросы по заданию.  Пункт а): нужно время для обсуждения вашего предложения на счет цвета воврот для обсуждения с оргкомитетом. Отвечу чуть позже. Б) никаких механических приспособлений, это означает, что вы можете сделать роботу лопату или что-то вроде этого, но это устройство не может приводиться в движение с помощью мотора. в) никаких ограничений на этот счет не выдвинуто, значит это дело робота. г) формулировки действитьльно не совсем корректны. считаем верным следующее:в разделе 6: В каждом поединке выигравшим считается робот,  который привез в зону ворот наибольшее число шаров. При этом тем, что считается "привез в зону ворот" смотрим в разделе 5, т.е. шары, которые прошли через зону ворот тоже идут в зачет.


Это может быть и не цвет ворот, и даже лучше чтобы это было что-то другое, что могло бы служить для ориентации, когда робот находится в любой точке поля. Окрашенная область ворот, конечно, позволит понять туда ли ты приехал и пригнал шары, но при этом всё равно потребуется в процессе игры "помнить" направление. Просто навскидку не могу придумать ничего другого, способствующего ориентации.  


Ориенироваться на площадке можно например относительно бортов, но огромное количество шаров 30-50 делает этот метод проблематичным.



Да, борта помогут отличить движение вдоль/поперёк площадки от движения по диагонали, но не более того, ибо все борта одинаковые. Кстати, насколько они прочные, жёсткие, гладкие, не сдвигаемые с места при механическом воздейтвии на них роботом? Какова конструкция и материалы бортов? 


Борта деревенняе. При столкновении робота с бортами, робот, вероятнее всего, не сдвинет их с места, те. просто застрянет. 


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